Here is something close. A 55 year old television interview featuring the legendary Mike Wallace and preeminent theologian Reinhold Niebuhr.
Of course some of the issues have changed. But its fascinating to watch the interview and actually hear and see Neihbuhr engaged in this dialogue.
This isn't for everyone...but suffice it to say we don't have television like this anymore.
Here is an excerpt from the transcript (you can read the entire transcript here) and here is a link to the actual interview.
For those of us who have read Neibuhr and have admired him, this is a treat!
religions are becoming more influential. I say it would look that way
because we hear so much about religious revivals with church attendance
increasing, college students returning to religion, the apparent success of
the evangelists. Yet, in large measure you have criticized this revival. Why?
NIEBUHR: Well, that's a long story, too. I wouldn't criticize the whole
revival. I've criticized - the revival wherever it gives petty and trivial
answers to very great and ultimate questions about the meaning of our life.
There has been a religious revival because -- let me put it like this, the
people that weren't traditionally religious, conventionally religious, had a
religion of their own in my youth. These were liberals who believed in the
idea of progress or they were Marxists. Both of these secular religions have
broken down. The nuclear age has refuted the idea of progress and
Marxism has been refuted by Stalinism. Therefore people have returned to
the historic religion.
NIEBUHR: But now when the historic religions give trivial answers to these
very tragic questions of our day, when an evangelist says, for instance, we
mustn't hope for a summit meeting, we must hope in Christ without spelling
out what this could mean in our particular nuclear age. This is the irrelevant
answer, when another Evangelist says if America doesn't stop being selfish,
it will be doomed. This is also a childish answer because nations are selfish
and the question about America isn't whether we will be selfish or unselfish,
WALLACE: In other words, translate religion into a kind of active morality.
NIEBUHR: Yes, a morality of justice and reciprocity.
WALLACE: Well, let me ask you this: Now, we're constantly being told, Dr.
Niebuhr, by our political and by our church leaders, that in our fight against
Communism, we are on God's side that we're God-fearing people, they are
atheists - the Russians, the Communists are atheists - and therefore we
must ultimately win. What about that?
NIEBUHR: I don't know whether any religious leader would say that we
must ultimately win, because we're on God's side. If they do say that, it's
bad religion, because....
WALLACE: Well, haven't we heard from the the Old Testament that "right is might"?
NIEBUHR: No, no - well, that right is might ... but in the Old Testament, the
God of the Prophets never was completely on Israel's side. There was a
primitive national religion, but it was always a transcendent God who had
judgment first in the House of God. This is the true religion. It has a sense
of a transcendent majesty and a transcendent meaning so that that puts
myself and the foe under the same judgment."